Rarely do I ever seriously consider the things my counter-part, Mr. Angry Umpire, has to say. Occasionally his sense-less ramblings make me chuckle out loud strictly, because they are entertaining. However the Angry Umpire's last posting really got me thinking. Basically the question he posed was; with a 28 team roster has all SCK managed to do is dilute their once quality product.
The simple answer is no, of course not. The quality standard that SCK puts on the field every season is far superior to anything offered in the area and even better than WAKA could provide. Some feel that a $35 per season price-tag is a little high. However considering the value contained in SCK membership, it really is a hell of a deal. From bar drink specials to free bowling Tuesday nights and everything in between, all the little things count. Paid umpires, paid uniforms, and SCK's continued effort to re-invest in the league; i.e. new website, new scoreboards, and in the near future on-line registration. It really is a great value.
The other thing to consider is, player fees not only pay for the league costs, but they are also a big part of the league's charity work. All Sun City Kickballers should be proud to know by playing kickball they are also giving back to the El Paso community. Just over the holiday season SCK donated over a $1000 and collected 800 pounds of food for our four legged friends.
However, in all fairness I don't think that is what the Angry Umpire is eluding to when he asks if SCK's product is being diluted. He is talking about competition, plain and simple. Granted, for those more hardcore kickballers the season is off to a slow start. There have been few marque match-ups and most of the more anticipated games won't be played until the end of the season. Unless you are a person who likes 20-0, 15-5, 17-0 beatdowns, then the season is looking tip top. However I thought the saying was, "to be the best, you have to beat the best." I never thought good competition is power house teams beating up on cup cake teams. I doubt that is ever fun for either side. Some of the veteran teams look bored and I don't play them.
The same can be said for "the friendlies". They may not really care if they win or lose, but honestly, who wants to get the ever-loving snot beat out of them each week. You would think that they would much rather play a team who is not only of the same skill set, but more importantly a team who is of the same state mind. Just playing to play, just playing to have some fun.
Which always leads us to the same question, "Should SCK offer competitive and non-competitive divisions?"
Every season the option is considered, but oddly the popularity for such a move always hovers around 50% for and 50% against. As the league continues to expand it is time to finally end this debate. With 28 teams this season and who knows how many next season, the time to answer this question is upon us.
Saturday, March 26, 2011
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No need for the two separate divisions. When you sign up for the league it should be under stood that its competitive. V&D
Another option could be to create something like Europe's Champions League. On a seperate day, maybe Saturdays. Take the top 8 teams from the previous seasons playoffs and have them play a mini season to crown a champion for the more competitive teams.
That isn't necessarily true. The league isn't really set up to be competitive or non competitive, its set up to simply provide kickball. It has never been decided to cater to one group more than the other. However, yes a majority of the teams are more competitive than non competitive. But does that mean we should only cater to the competitive players and ignore the non competitive players?
I would venture to say of course not.
I like playing the 17-0 games when I'm winning I get to kick more =D and I also like playing the closer games too the thrill of knowing it's anyones games is cool too, league is good the way it is
It just comes to show how shitty the new season is going when Mr Kickball has no choice but to steal a topic that Ive already written about!! You can sugar coat it all you want, but all the ass kickings all the Newbies are receiving cannot be good for the league. Eventually theyll get discouraged and not come back. Maybe it is time for competitive and non-competitive...
I can see the league going either way. I personally would like to see 4 different divisions. 1 - Toughest, 2 - Competitive, 3 - Fun Clubs, 4 - Rookies.
Also that Champions League idea is pretty good also.
4 different divisions?? That's too many cuz ur gonna have odd number of teams playing in each one cuz there more competitive teams.. How bout you levave it the way it is and since 16 teams are making playoffs, if there are fields and enough time why don't u make the bottom 12 teams play for a toilet bowl or consolation bracket I think that'd be cool that way they get like a "just for fun" playoffs too
Great idea Rick. Toilet Bowl sounds cool.
At the beginning of the season there were a lot of people writing blogs and all of sudden they stopped. What happened?
Back in the day there were conversations about having a King of Kickball Division and a separate Old School Division. Basically competitive and non-competitive, you could register your team for either one. You would pick your poison.
The King of Kickball division would have been run just how it ended up currently, no different. It would have the same internal divisions, playoffs, and championship.
However the Old School division would a separate class. It would feature some different rules, a separate schedule, their own playoffs, etc. They wouldn't earn playoff spots into the King of Kickball Division, but maybe the Old School champ would earn like a 16th seed into the King of Kickball, just to see what its like to play against the big dogs.
At 28 teams we should offer both competitive and non competitive.
I missed this post, but right on Jackie. I agree - even in a game of marbles one gets competitive...
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